Rose Society of Northern Ireland- Member Gardens

[ideasguy]

Heres the photos from a 2005 project (how time FLIES!!)

http://www.ideasforgardens.com/RoseSociety-NI/

ID questions for you folk:
1)
Saxifraga Robertianum Group
Can someone conform that this name is correct. No joy on Google
2)
Unknown Myrtus communis compacta
This is the name I was given.
It doesnt relate exactly to photos I see on the web

[newplantguy]

I do not know this Saxifraga group.
The Myrtus communis Compacta - I wonder if this is Microphylla which should be know as
Myrtus communis subsp. tarentina AGM
Paul.

[ideasguy]

I'm not at all sure its a Myrtus Paul.
I have a few pages of notes and trying to match the sequences - my scribbled notes to photos.

Myrtus seem to have a central core of long stamens (including Myrtus communis subsp. tarentina as suggested - at least as portrayed on a number of web pages on the net). The plant in my photo doesnt seem to have that - instead its a more flat, daisy like centre.
Photo was taken in mid June if thats any help. Alternative suggestions to the name of the plant are welcome
I dont have a closer view of that one, unfortunately.

[newplantguy]

I think the Saxifraga is a form of Saxifraga x urbium
The Myrtus - I do not think that is what it is, but from the photo I do not know at this time.
Paul.

[ideasguy]

Yes, Ive had a look at my Saxifraga x urbium (perhaps better known as London Pride) and it does have nice tooted edges to the leaves as in the specimen in question, so it may be a variant.

I'm wondering - Has anyone heard of the Robertianum Group in Saxifraga?

Another update to the website done today
http://www.ideasforgardens.com/RoseSociety-NI/
and another puzzle:
Scroll down to Robin Jamison
There are two photos of Unknown RJ1
At the time of taking the photos, Robin didn't know its name. He picked it up at a Garden Fete.
Since then, hes been told it is called Japanese Angelica tree.
From my research, the botanical name for that is Aralia elata.
Checking the Master Database, I find that Eric (palustris) has that plant, and you'll find a photo in his WPG website:
http://www.ideasforgardens.net/palustris/

The question is, does Aralia elata have those vicious thorns on the trunk?
They are clearly shown in my second photo.
I spoke to Robin on the phone this morning. He tells me that the tree bears clusters of pendulous tiny white flowers.

[newplantguy]

Almost certainly a variant.
I have never come across the Robertiana group in Saxifraga but you never know.
Don't know the Aralia will be interested to see what suggestions other have.

[ideasguy]

Thanks Paul. The Aralia/Unknown RJ1 could also be something else of course.

[ideasguy]

Change of plan.
It was proving too unwieldy to make a WPG with all members included.
Instead, Ive now decided to make up a WPG for each individual member, and tie them all together with a "home" page.
I'll add the link here later.

Heres the first Members Garden (still needs more work as of time of posting)
http://www.ideasforgardens.com/RoseSocietyNI/RoyMoore/

I was spending excessive time on the net on this project. I had great difficulty matching up my scribbled noted to the photos, since I am very much an amateur when it comes to Roses. 
To avoid repetition when I encountered the same rose when I progressed to other member gardens I decided to create my own reference point.
Heres the result - Rose Garden Photos:
http://www.cultivars.co.uk/Roses/
Ive made a few tweaks to the WPG program to allow some of the features you see here.
One tweak was to allow special handling of plants with Trade Names.
e.g. Rosa Ainsley Dickson (='Dickimono') PBR AGM
 
Note how in the plants list, the plant name is listed as Rosa Ainsley Dickson
Its sold under that name (the trade name). Note that Ainsley Dickson (the Trade name) is NOT enclosed in single quotes.
When you click the link, the web page with the photo shows the full name, as would be found in the RHS Plant Finder.
'Dickimono' is Cultivar name under which the plant was registered. This NEVER changes.
Note that the trade name CAN be changed!!! An example would be where it would sell better with a different name in another country.
PBR means the plant is protected by Plant Breeder Rights
AGM means it has been awarded the prestigious Award of Garden merit by the RHS
You'll find other symbols in the list e.g. (F) = Floribunda

The Trade Name feature is an option.
Note how in this WPG:
http://www.ideasforgardens.com/RoseSocietyNI/RoyMoore/
- Ive unchecked the option, so Trade Names are not shown.

[ideasguy]

Heres the new "Home" page for this project:
http://www.ideasforgardens.com/RoseSocietyNI