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Backing up and Restoring from CD
« on: February 10, 2006, 10:09:07 PM »
I recently moved over to a new computer on XP, and I have to confess, I hadn?t tried saving IG files directly to a CD using the IG backup program (GA201) on this beast yet.
I say beast, because that?s how it behaves.

I had Adaptec software on my old computer, and it allowed me to treat CD-RW as another usable disc.
Not so on my new computer (yet), and I was able to recreate a problem reported by Sylvia from East of England.

I replied by explaining what I did. You can try the same. Its a very useful exercise.

In my case:
XP treats the data on the CD-RW as read only (amazing!)

Here's what I did.

1. I create a folder on my CD-RW (e: drive) called:
igdata_sets
2 I created  a sub folder in igdata_sets called:
my backup
3 I created a sub folder in "My Backup" called:
Igdata

The full path to these folders is:
e:\igdata_sets\my backup\igdata

You can change "my backup" to another name, but don?t change the names of the other folders.

4 I then took the option to "Write these files" to CD-RW
It ejects. I stick it back in again.

OK, so we now have the folder structure permanently on the CD.

If you dont do this "Write" operation (I didnt first time around) then IG cant see the folder.
Why? Because they LOOK like they are on the CD, but the system hasnt WRITTEN them to the CD.

5 On the hard disk, I make EXACTLY the same folder structure (but again, it doesn?t have to be "My Backup", but for the purpose of this exercise, it is).

6 Start Ideas Genie
7 Run program System (menu tab)>System Paths-GA197
8 In System Backup Path I "Get a Directory":
I find and select c:\igdata_sets\my backup\igdata

9 In "Alternate System Backup Path" I "get a directory"
I find and select e:\igdata_sets\my backup\igdata

10 SAVE Changes. (GA197 closes)

11 Start the backup program GA201
Do a backup to the System Backup path. (it goes to the c drive! - see 8 above!)

12 I come out of Ideas Genie
I open windows explorer (can use My Computer)
I locate the folder
c:\igdata_sets\my backup\igdata
I "select All" and thus select ALL files that have been backed up into that folder (in 11 above)

13 I drag these files (NOT the folder) onto the CD into:
e:\igdata_sets\my backup\igdata

14 I choose the option to "Write these files" to the CD-RW
CD ejects. Message confirms files have been written to CD-RW.

So now we have a backup on the Hard disc, and a backup on the CD-RW
Lets explore.

15 Start Ideas Genie
16 Start any program under "Programs" tab
Click the "Data Source" pop-up
There in the list we have a database called
c: Drive My Backup
AND
e: Drive My Backup

Magic!

I can select and open either of these databases
Why?
Because, due to the folder structure, they are recognized as SWAP databases!!
So, now you know how to make a SWAP!

I'll let you figure out how useful this is!!

17 I Open the one on the e: drive
I attempt to change a plant name on the CD-RW I get:
Cannot update Cursor.
Reason?
The files are Read Only

(Note: I CAN change the files on the c: drive SWAP! They are NOT read only)

On to RESTORE:
18 I start System>Restore Files>Restore Files GA203
I click on the Restore From pop-up and select:
"Alternate Backup Directory"
IG confirms that it is going to restore files from the CD-RW.

19 I continue with the restore.
Succeeds.

20 I start Ideas Genie
I start GA027
I edit a plant.
It saves the changes.

Conclusion?
As expected, the Restore copies the "Read Only" files from the CD-RW and saves them on my hard disc in such a way that they are NOT "Read Only"

Sounds long winded but its really quite easy.
Give it a try, and let me know how you get on.

In the above, I refer to CD-RW
You can do the same thing to a CD-R
Its a good idea!!
Now, when you do THAT, you have a SWAP which you can exchange with fellow members!

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Re: Backing up and Restoring from CD
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2006, 05:38:48 PM »
I tried this workaround. It works. I'd begun to think I was losing what few computer skills I'd acquired.
I'm very new to the software and still in the very early stages of building my database. Having spent time inputting data, the last thing I wanted to do was lose any - this method ensures a reliable backup.

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Re: Backing up and Restoring from CD
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2006, 06:43:47 PM »
Thats great Sylvia, glad it worked for you.

By co-incidence, I was giving support to Garth in London, Ontario, Canada.
He's been using Ideas Genie for about 18 months now. It was nice to hear from him, and to learn that he was using the software!
He bought a new computer and was transferring data from the old to the new.
He's got the software reloaded, re-registered and was about to restore data.
I sent him the same info on backup and restore, and Ive invited him along to let us know how he got on.

Its great to see you joining the forum Sylvia. We need a lift!

Are you able to access your SWAP by using the "Other Source" pop-up in the programs?

Another suggestion to all: do a backup to the local drive using GA201 regularly.
Its a good idea to do it at the beginning of a session. If you delete a plant by mistake, its easy to recover, or at least look at the data in the SWAP (in the Backup folder) and see how it was at the beginning of the session.

Any comments by other members would be much appreciated.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2006, 11:59:02 PM by ideasguy »