Author Topic: Discussion on Label Orion #311-54LC (Read 29955 times)

roiphil · « **on:** May 21, 2009, 08:03:58 PM »

thanks for info on US label i looked at GA048 for a label 6x4 but i could not see one, will have to have a play with the US one

It would be be great to print on 6x4 photo paper adding photo and text like in my pic through IGPRO

Had a play and have ran into a couple of problems
1, pic below is of label plants selection screen GA048S02 and all looks fine

2 This one is screen GA048S03 Editing Labels again all ok

3 Print preview this is where my problems lies how do i edit label to get text in correct place for height, flowering time etc

ideasguy · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2009, 10:57:15 PM »

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i looked at GA048 for a label 6x4 but i could not see one

No there isnt one yet, but if you think its useful, I could do one.

RE:

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how do i edit label to get text in correct place for height, flowering time etc

Thats the fields I mentioned above that are unfinished in my earlier posting.
The captions are set out as you can see.
Currently you have (as per your label)
Height
Flowering time
Colour
Sunlight
Zones
Prune

Those topics are only suggestions,for discussion with Toby , for US use.
I will make it so a) those captions are editable in the program, and b) you can enter the values for each caption.

As you have found in your testing, the text under the photo is free text which you can already enter in the program.
I'll leave that as is.

Now youve started it off, I could do with input from all as to what other captions they think should be included there.

roiphil · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:29:44 AM »

Quote from: ideasguy on May 21, 2009, 10:57:15 PM

RE:
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i looked at GA048 for a label 6x4 but i could not see one
No there isnt one yet, but if you think its useful, I could do one.

RE:
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how do i edit label to get text in correct place for height, flowering time etc
Thats the fields I mentioned above that are unfinished in my earlier posting.
The captions are set out as you can see.
Currently you have (as per your label)
Height
Flowering time
Colour
Sunlight
Zones
Prune

Those topics are only suggestions,for discussion with Toby , for US use.
I will make it so a) those captions are editable in the program, and b) you can enter the values for each caption.

As you have found in your testing, the text under the photo is free text which you can already enter in the program.
I'll leave that as is.

Now youve started it off, I could do with input from all as to what other captions they think should be included there.

firstly it would be good to have the same layout but on 6x4 photo paper, i think ideal if you do car boots or sell from home etc as all the info will be there and they will last longer than normal paper plus no need to laminate as you just put them away till next time

got you on the unfinished fields now, for the uk would you need zones, but if its a standard layout then leave it, add plant type ?,
over to discussion

NightHawk · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:48:38 AM »

Quote from: ideasguy on May 21, 2009, 10:57:15 PM

......... Now youve started it off, I could do with input from all as to what other captions they think should be included there.

Spread of plant would be useful.

Laurie.

ideasguy · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2009, 10:52:14 AM »

Yes, need that. Thanks Laurie

bossgard · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:55:14 PM »

On the original that I took this from, there is also listed:

Type of Plant: (Annual)
Special Attrributes: (Container Plants, Showy Flowers)
Susceptible to: (Black Spot, Root Rots)

The (words) of course, would be your own data.

If selling price is a factor, you might want to include area for that.

Happy you guys are taking action on the UK labeling program, now I know how George feels, when somebody takes one of his 'babies' and goes with it!

- Toby

NightHawk · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2009, 06:01:50 PM »

Well Toby, George has done so much for us by giving us these fantastic programs, that the least we can do is make them the success they deserve.

Use them to the very best of our abilities and request enhancements by adding additional features whenever necessary.

Software programs are forever evolving, so any program is never really finished.

Laurie.

ideasguy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2009, 07:21:01 PM »

Todays research was to investigate the use of Richtext in data fields in my software, as suggested by a US Bonsai Genie use (not a forum member)
I got it working nicely in a test program, so I will be able to do this.

On the way home, I realised that it would be great for this particular (labels) application.

Rich text allows you to make text bold, change font, select colours for text, underline etc.
Using that, the fields we are talking about could be free text (a region where you type you own text) and the user could edit to provide any text they wanted.
Then they could use the richtext buttons (Bold, italics etc) to format the elements of thje text to their precise requirements.
Thus, the user would not be restricted to the captions I set. They could do it any way they wish

Need to do more work on this development.

roiphil · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:00:03 PM »

I feel responsible for making you the extra work george sorry

as i think this links into the 6x4 labels subject, so in return i would like to offer my services as a guinea pig for the test printing

, i just dont know how you do it all, a full time job, your garden, your software, how do you find the time, or has eric been round with his camera

ideasguy · « **Reply #9 on:** May 22, 2009, 10:27:12 PM »

No need to be sorry Phil. On the contrary, its time for rejoicing

When people are keen to use the software and offer suggestions to move it on further, I'm more than happy.
All these little enhancements add up!
As Toby said, these program are each like babies to me, and I think Toby has adopted that particular one!
Its really nice to have help to make them grow and mature.

roiphil · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2009, 10:24:05 AM »

Quote from: ideasguy on May 22, 2009, 10:27:12 PM

No need to be sorry Phil. On the contrary, its time for rejoicing
When people are keen to use the software and offer suggestions to move it on further, I'm more than happy.
All these little enhancements add up!
As Toby said, these program are each like babies to me, and I think Toby has adopted that particular one!
Its really nice to have help to make them grow and mature.

that good then whatever you do on the labels will certainly come in handy

ideasguy · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2009, 11:46:52 AM »

OK, more development work his morning, and I'm over the moon!
Heres an example of what Ive done with GA048, using richtext.
Note the Bold and lower case mix down the RHS of the label
That is now free text, so you can type in anything you like, make selected words bold, underline, coloured etc.

roiphil · « **Reply #12 on:** May 23, 2009, 06:15:15 PM »

looking very good you should be proud of that

ideasguy · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:36:03 PM »

Something new for you to try.
After more than a week of research, Richtext has now been added to IG Pro.
Ive worked it into the Labels program.

2 Downloads:
a) GA048
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/GA048-dl.exe

b) Labels:
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/labelcds-dl.exe

Start IG Pro
Under Labels tab start GA048
Should indicate Version 20 when started up

In the Select a Label pop-up, select Orion #311 54LC
Click on the New Labels button
Proceed as normal to add plants to the two label images in the template.
Click Edit.
This takes you to a new screen with the richtext options.
See what you can do with it.

Heres what I did in my testing:

ideasguy · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:36:58 PM »

The work screen GA048S08 looked like this when the editing was finished:

NightHawk · « **Reply #15 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:41:17 PM »

That works a treat George - excellent work.

Makes for a nice customisation experience.

Laurie.

ideasguy · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2009, 10:52:06 PM »

Thats very fast feedback Laurie. Thanks once again!

It goes to make it a good days work

Now looking forward to hearing from Toby. Hes been waiting quite a long time for me to finish the design for that particular Orion label.
I hope our other members will give it a try.

roiphil · « **Reply #17 on:** June 08, 2009, 10:19:12 PM »

yet again i am having a moment or 2

downloaded updates labels programe v20
get as far as GA048SO2 then i run into problems i have added plants to label selection ok

click on edit i then get this pop up

click on cancel and this error box appears

am i missing something some where, not looking in correct place for rich text ?, its getting late anyway will check in tomorrow after i have talked to my goats

ideasguy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 09, 2009, 12:47:52 AM »

I despair

Will investigate tomorrow.

Meanwhile, Ive fixed a bug reported by Toby.
All, please download version 22
1 Download:
GA048
http://www.ideasgenie.com/updates-igpro/GA048-dl.exe

Lyn and Malcolm · « **Reply #19 on:** June 09, 2009, 08:00:43 AM »

I can confirm I get the same as Phil

In the second screenshot of Phils. It is showing that it is looking for the file richtx32.ocx this file does not exist on my computer

XP

Malcolm

Lyn and Malcolm · « **Reply #20 on:** June 09, 2009, 08:03:57 AM »

Still the same with ver 22.

Malcolm

NightHawk · « **Reply #21 on:** June 09, 2009, 08:58:48 AM »

Here's a screenshot of my second test today. GA048S02 is in the background and GA048S08 above it when I click to EDIT.

As you can see I'm not getting the error boxes that Phil and Malcolm are getting, but what I am getting (which I hadn't noticed before), is that once I've added two different plants and click on the top one to edit, the plant I added in the top box is duplicated over the one below it.

I get the same result with version 22 installed.

I notice that in Phil's screenshot of GA048S02, he also has the same plant name duplicated in both boxes.

(Windows XP)

Laurie.

ideasguy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 09, 2009, 09:33:20 AM »

Problem No 1
RE: (Malcolm)

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richtx32.ocx

Thanks for that additional info. Makes it a lot easier for me.
I'll set that up as a download for you and Phil. Watch this space.
Try this in the meantime.
Do a search (Start/Search) for richtx32.ocx on your computer
Let me know if you find it.

Problem No 2 (reported by Laurie)

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once I've added two different plants and click on the top one to edit, the plant I added in the top box is duplicated over the one below it.

When you touch (click) a label, you fill it with the name of the plant which is selected from the list on the right.
Thus, select a plant from the list on the right , touch a label.
Repeat touch for same plant if necessary.
Heres where I think you are having the problem.
When you do that, you may be changing the name of the plant on that label youve clicked.
To EDIT, you dont have to touch (click) on the label.
Its a mock of the template, not a list of plants.
Instead, simply clck the Edit button to go to screen GA048S08
In GA048S08, you can edit each plant youve added to labels.
In GA048S08 you have to click the plant name in the list to select the plant to allow you to edit its label.
Does that help Lauriie?

roiphil · « **Reply #23 on:** June 09, 2009, 09:47:34 AM »

same for me on V22
i also get this error box

when i close

same here its as if missing rich txt file or something

Laurie i tried with the same plant and 2 different plants and still got same errors up so i have no idea if you can do 2 plants at same time

as you can guess i need to sack my goats

ideasguy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 09, 2009, 09:49:06 AM »

Did you do the search? See my message just prior to your posting

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