Author Topic: Working with specimen program (Read 49810 times)

ideasguy · « **Reply #50 on:** January 27, 2010, 07:36:25 PM »

Thats very impressive Isabell.
I shall add those grades to the demo database I am preparing as I progress with this project.

I'll start to the next lesson tomorrow.

ideasguy · « **Reply #51 on:** January 29, 2010, 10:56:05 PM »

Please read the editing Ive done to Toby's posting in this topic on January 16, 2010
(Hope you excuse me for that Toby $:-\$ )

bossgard · « **Reply #52 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:45:44 AM »

George:

Editing the copy of my Post is fine, but you're going have to help be find where that (mark) is hiding, because on my keyboard the @ sign is caps on number 2, and always has been. Are American keyboards manufactured differently? I've three computer keyboards in the house, and they are all the same!! That single 'quote mark' is all that's here. Maybe it's a special symbol.

JohnB what's your keyboard like? Isabell?

- Toby

roiphil · « **Reply #53 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:07:15 PM »

Quote from: bossgard on January 16, 2010, 10:21:54 PM

EDITED by George on 29th Jan

Begin Edit
When adding Cultivars in GA027, make sure you enclose the cultivar name like this:
'Cultivar name'
NOT like this
?Cultivar name?

Whats the difference?
The single quote to use before AND after the cultivar name text should be the character on the button on your keyboard which has the @ sign and the correct ' character.
If you DONT use the correct character, GA027 will NOT recognise it as a cultivar name

Ive corrected the items in the list down to the dashed line.

To see what I mean, click add a plant in GA027.
Use Copy (e.g. Ctrl-C) one of the items I havent edited and paste (Ctrl-V) into the Plant name field in GA100S40.
Look at the Botanical name translation on the right. It gets it wrong.

Now copy one of the items Ive edited and add to GA027.
Correct?

Below that dashed line needs to be edited and fixed by a dashing young volunteer
END Edit

VEGETABLE LIST:
   Bean Pole 'Garden Blue Lake Pole'
   Bean Pole 'Kentucky Wonder Pole'
   Beet 'Lutz Greenleaf'
   Broccoli 'Purple Sprouting'
   Broccoli 'Waltham 29'
   Brusselssprouts 'Long Island'
   Cabbage 'Danish Ballhead'
   Cabbage 'Jersey Wakefield'
   Cabbage 'Red Acre'
   Carrot 'Danvers Half Long'
   Carrot 'Imperator'
-----------------------------------------------------------
   Carrot ?Red Core Chantenay?
   Corn ?Bodacious?
   Corn ?Earlivee?
   Corn ?Early Sunglow?
   Corn ?Golden Jubilee?
   Cucumber ?Marketmore 76?
   Cucumber ?Muncher?
   Cucumber ?Smr 58?
   Eggplant ?Twilight Hybrid?
   Kale ?Russian Red?
   Kohlrabi ?Purple Vienna?
   Kohlrabi ?White Vienna?
   Lettuce ?Bon Vivant?
   Lettuce ?Buttercrunch (bibb)?
   Lettuce ?Gourmet Blend?
   Lettuce ?Red Romaine?
   Lettuce ?Red Sails?
   Onion ?Evergreen White Bunching?
   Onion ?Yellow Globe?
   Parsnip ?Andover?
   Pepper ?Calwonder 300?
   Pepper ?Sweet Banana?
   Radish ?French Breakfast?
   Radish ?Early Scarlet Globe?
   Salsify ?Mammoth Sandwich Island?
   Spinach ?Olympia Smith Lf Lng Std?
   Spinach ?Samish Savoy Hybrid?
   Spinach ?Semi-savoy Tyee
   Squash summer ?Table Queen, Bush Acorn?
   Squash winter ?Blue Hubbard?
   Squash zuchinni ?Black Beauty Bush?
   Squash zuchinni ?Jackpot Hybrid Bush?

VEGETABLE LIST (continued):
   Swiss Chard ?Pac Choi/bok Choy Chinmustard?
   Swiss Chard ?Rainbow Blend?
   Swiss Chard ?Rhubarb?
   Tomato ?Gold Nugget?
   Tomato ?Legend?
   Tomato ?San Marzano, Roman Type?
   Tomato ?Siletz?
   Tomato ?Sweetie?
   Turnip/rutabaga ?American Purple Top?
   Turnip/rutabaga ?Purple Top White Globe?

ESTABLISHED PLANT LIST:
   Blackberry ?Evergreen?
   Blueberry ?Darrow?
   Blueberry ?Earliblue?
   Boysen Berry ?Unknow #1?
   Logan Berry ?Unknown #1?
   Raspberry ?Unknown #1?
   Strawberry `Rainier/tristar?

- Toby

a dashing young volunteer has arrived

VEGETABLE LIST:
   Bean Pole 'Garden Blue Lake Pole'
   Bean Pole 'Kentucky Wonder Pole'
   Beet 'Lutz Greenleaf'
   Broccoli 'Purple Sprouting'
   Broccoli 'Waltham 29'
   Brusselssprouts 'Long Island'
   Cabbage 'Danish Ballhead'
   Cabbage 'Jersey Wakefield'
   Cabbage 'Red Acre'
   Carrot 'Danvers Half Long'
   Carrot 'Imperator'
-----------------------------------------------------------
   Carrot 'Red Core Chantenay'
   Corn 'Bodacious'
   Corn 'Earlivee'
   Corn 'Early Sunglow'
   Corn 'Golden Jubilee'
   Cucumber 'Marketmore 76'
   Cucumber 'Muncher'
   Cucumber 'Smr 58'
   Eggplant 'Twilight Hybrid'
   Kale 'Russian Red'
   Kohlrabi 'Purple Vienna'
   Kohlrabi 'White Vienna'
   Lettuce 'Bon Vivant'
   Lettuce 'Buttercrunch (bibb)'
   Lettuce 'Gourmet Blend'
   Lettuce 'Red Romaine'
   Lettuce 'Red Sails'
   Onion 'Evergreen White Bunching'
   Onion 'Yellow Globe'
   Parsnip 'Andover'
   Pepper 'Calwonder 300'
   Pepper 'Sweet Banana'
   Radish 'French Breakfast'
   Radish 'Early Scarlet Globe'
   Salsify 'Mammoth Sandwich Island'
   Spinach 'Olympia Smith Lf Lng Std'
   Spinach 'Samish Savoy Hybrid'
   Spinach 'Semi-savoy Tyee'
   Squash summer 'Table Queen, Bush Acorn'
   Squash winter 'Blue Hubbard'
   Squash zuchinni 'Black Beauty Bush'
   Squash zuchinni 'Jackpot Hybrid Bush'

VEGETABLE LIST (continued):
   Swiss Chard 'Pac Choi/bok Choy Chinmustard'
   Swiss Chard 'Rainbow Blend'
   Swiss Chard 'Rhubarb'
   Tomato 'Gold Nugget'
   Tomato 'Legend'
   Tomato 'San Marzano, Roman Type'
   Tomato 'Siletz'
   Tomato 'Sweetie'
   Turnip/rutabaga 'American Purple Top'
   Turnip/rutabaga 'Purple Top White Globe'

ESTABLISHED PLANT LIST:
   Blackberry 'Evergreen'
   Blueberry 'Darrow'
   Blueberry 'Earliblue'
   Boysen Berry 'Unknow #1'
   Logan Berry 'Unknown #1'
   Raspberry 'Unknown #1'
   Strawberry 'Rainier/tristar'

roiphil · « **Reply #54 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:12:09 PM »

Quote from: bossgard on January 30, 2010, 03:45:44 AM

George:

Editing the copy of my Post is fine, but you're going have to help be find where that (mark) is hiding, because on my keyboard the @ sign is caps on number 2, and always has been. Are American keyboards manufactured differently? I've three computer keyboards in the house, and they are all the same!! That single 'quote mark' is all that's here. Maybe it's a special symbol.

JohnB what's your keyboard like? Isabell?

- Toby

I think american keyboards are different on all my 4 the ' mark is under the @ but same key, no need to press any other keys to get the ' to appear have done your veg list, saved you a job

ideasguy · « **Reply #55 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:17:44 PM »

Aha!

Open a new document in Microsoft WORD
Copy this
Tomato 'Siletz'
and paste into the document
It shows up perfectly

NOW, try TYPING the same text, using the ' on the same button as the @ (on my UK keyboard) in BOTH instances.
It comes out like THIS
Tomato ?Silenz?

ideasguy · « **Reply #56 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:20:12 PM »

Session 3 is now posted and ready for the eager students to return to the classroom:

http://www.garden-software.co.uk/vegetables/specimens/specimens.html

roiphil · « **Reply #57 on:** January 30, 2010, 03:37:32 PM »

strange just done as you said in wordpad and

Tomato 'Siletz' yours

Tomato 'Siletz' mine

to get the ` mark mine in top left hand key next to number 1

what country keyboard havei got southern ireland

bossgard · « **Reply #58 on:** January 30, 2010, 05:21:47 PM »

Phil: First of all, thank you for the favor of correcting my listing of veggies.

I'm not too sure if I'm following all of this or not, but Phil, I have on my keyboard left to the figure 1 and !, a slanted to the right ' for lower case, and a 'up/down' horizontal marking that as I remember is used for marking pronunciation in Spanish language and is called a tilde, upper case. Is this the lower case key that I should have used in marking my veggies?

Thanks, George. Am off to Session 3.

- Toby

ideasguy · « **Reply #59 on:** January 30, 2010, 05:24:38 PM »

No, not that one Toby.
That one has a little "tilt" to the left.
The one you are looking for is vertical
Its the single quote key. Can you find the single quote key?

My tests:
In MS WORD it gives a single quote
In Notepad (open it and try) it gives the vertical symbol, and it does the same in IG Pro etc

bossgard · « **Reply #60 on:** January 30, 2010, 07:07:36 PM »

OK, I got to the last screen shot of Session 3!
Now, I will walk away from my computer and Genie Pro, and ask myself 'What did I do?'
Let all of that sink in, maybe sleep (my after lunch nap) on it.
And go back and do it with more meaning and thought. Many times, in fact!
It's just plain amazing what that guy George can do!

- Toby

ideasguy · « **Reply #61 on:** January 30, 2010, 07:16:04 PM »

Glad that was an easy lesson

As well as looking at the pretty pictures

did you actually create specimens as you went along Toby?

roiphil · « **Reply #62 on:** January 30, 2010, 07:27:22 PM »

have done all my veg once, just need to do it a second time to do the 2nd Sowing, am assuming that one can go back into it all later to enter sowing dates etc, question what are the selling prices amount fields for users who make a catalogue my first thoughts are, but then again if your like me and buy seeds of plants to sell the plants, you could enter what each plant would sell for, as it gives you a total, hm wanders off thinking and come back to it tomorrow

and agree with Toby that guy George sure is good, should be on the krypton factor

ideasguy · « **Reply #63 on:** January 30, 2010, 07:52:22 PM »

We will be dealing with sowing dates in the next Lesson Phil.
Its on Tasks

You can go back into your specimen profiles and make amendments at any time.
We will be revisiting those later in theis project.

bossgard · « **Reply #64 on:** January 30, 2010, 10:01:08 PM »

George:

Shame on you! Sure I acutally created specimens.
Had to back up a couple of times, to do it.
There are two things to consider, as one does the Sessions;
It's one thing to be told WHERE to 'click', another thing to
know WHY you 'clicked'.
Sometimes, it takes longer on the WHY than the WHERE.
It's all about how it all falls into the BIG, BIG picture, as Phil has just pointed out.

- Toby

ideasguy · « **Reply #65 on:** January 30, 2010, 10:49:01 PM »

Gosh, its taking me HOURS to do each session, just explaining the WHERE's. Those screenshots need a lot of preparation.
Hopefully the WHY's will become apparent with familiarity

Next lesson almost finished!!

ideasguy · « **Reply #66 on:** January 31, 2010, 11:05:49 AM »

School bell rings...
Session 4 is now posted and ready for the eager students to return to the classroom:

Adding a task for the 1st Sowing
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/vegetables/AddingTasks1/addingtasks1.html

ideasguy · « **Reply #67 on:** January 31, 2010, 05:42:01 PM »

...and to keep you busy on a cold winters day, heres Lesson 5

Editing a Task
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/vegetables/EditingTask/editingtask.html

bossgard · « **Reply #68 on:** January 31, 2010, 10:27:06 PM »

George and Others:

I am becoming very 'familiar' with Sesson 4.
(Still looking for the 'delete' button.)
I made it to the end, but . . . . . lots of errors on my part.

On Sesson 5, 'Screen Map' has 'rolls over', 'Test Screenshot' 'does not'.
Is this correct? Should both be same image?

(I hope the 'delete button' is in Sesson 5.)

- Toby

ideasguy · « **Reply #69 on:** January 31, 2010, 11:10:36 PM »

If you mean in screen GA047S04, then the answer is - the delete button is a Trash can. Its the button just under the Save button, bottom centre of screen

On the Screen Map, if you get a blurred effect, look for the orange icon with 4 diagonal blue arrows. When you hover over it, it says: Expand to regular size. Click on it for clear image.

This is the test screen:
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/vegetables/ga047screens1.swf
Note that its a swf extension. More info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWF

If you hover over the rectangle containing GA047S09, a hand appears. You can click on the "hotspot" and a screenshot of GA047S09 appears.

Like all my other screenshots, the first one does not have hotspots:
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/vegetables/EditingTask/GA047Screens1.jpg

Question to all:
Can you click on that hotspot (on the Test screen) and see that next screenshot of GA047S09?

ideasguy · « **Reply #70 on:** February 01, 2010, 12:04:47 AM »

Ive updated Lesson 5, to include instructions on how to delete a Task Date record using that Trash Can
http://www.garden-software.co.uk/vegetables/EditingTask/editingtask.html

bossgard · « **Reply #71 on:** February 01, 2010, 12:12:25 AM »

The Trash Can cleaned up all my mistakes, and now have just one Task to do.
However, that Task was scheduled for today, but since I won't be able to do it today,
I changed the date to next week.

I think I am OK on the Screen Map and Test Screenshot, and can see Screenshot GA047S09.

Thank you!
- Toby

ideasguy · « **Reply #72 on:** February 01, 2010, 12:18:43 AM »

Quote

However, that Task was scheduled for today, but since I won't be able to do it today,
I changed the date to next week.

Hey, that happens a lot here, Toby!

I wasnt sure about the swf file. Good it works for you. Lets see what the others have to report.

Thanks for taking time out from your "real" garden to work on your virtual garden!
Hope you are enjoying it all

Lyn and Malcolm · « **Reply #73 on:** February 01, 2010, 07:51:29 AM »

George asked

"Question to all:
Can you click on that hotspot (on the Test screen) and see that next screenshot of GA047S09?"

Yes

Malcolm

ideasguy · « **Reply #74 on:** February 01, 2010, 08:59:21 AM »

Thanks Malcolm
This project may be about vegetables, but most (if not all) of the things covered in the Lessons can be applied to garden plants in general. I hope all our members have time to spare to participate in the Project.
All comments and feedback is invaluable.

BTW, it takes MUCH longer to explain, than it does to actually DO the steps. Ive provided screenshots all the way to keep folk on track. Again that makes the steps to accomplish the creation and management of tasks seem lengthy.
With the guidance provided to establish a good understanding of the basics, all users should be able to do these things in seconds and with confidence.