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New labels or new features anyone?
« on: April 02, 2010, 04:25:32 PM »
If you are using the labels program, please let me know if you have sourced a label stock which needs a new label design.
If you'd like any new features, again please discuss here.

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 05:08:37 PM »
hows about the option to print out on standard 6 x 4 photo paper



i think some people would find this a good addition to the label program it could be use on your stalls to show what the plant looks like in flower and the description down the side

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 05:37:40 PM »
George:

I?m now generating quite a few of my labels that I adhere to potstics that I use for identifying
my vegetable and flower starts.

I?m using US#6577, 2x16=32 labels. It works great! The existing layout for that label
lets me use up to 3 lines of Data Text.

Which gives me a label that looks like this:

Text Area Text Area Text Area Text Area
Text Area Text Area Text Area Text Area
Text Area Text Area Text Area Text Area

When I generate these labels I would like to add to the text area as the last item,
the date I SOWED the seeds. This would change the above sample to then read:

Text Area Text Area Text Area Text Area
Text Area Text Area Text Area Text Area
Text Area Text Area Text Area 04/02/2010

I would like to be able to turn this feature on or off as needed, and be able to automatically
put in today?s date, or any date I wish. The date generated, would then be repeated
on all labels in that one batch (or one sheet), or the option of choosing which labels would
be so marked in that batch. Might be a good idea to be able to position the date any place
one might want it. This would be similar to the right hand ?footer? that you might print out on
a word processing document. Might even be suitable to use on all label layouts.

Is this workable?

- Toby

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 06:06:18 PM »
Phil:

Play around with Orion 311-54LC.
This is  a US one that George didn't get a chance to finish, and it is in RichText.
Suggest you keep track of changes you would want to make, and let George know.

- Toby

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 08:12:54 PM »
Phil:

Play around with Orion 311-54LC.
This is  a US one that George didn't get a chance to finish, and it is in RichText.
Suggest you keep track of changes you would want to make, and let George know.

- Toby
ta will have play over week end is Orion 311-54LC about the same size as photopaper 6x4 inches

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 08:42:58 PM »
Phil:

It is actually 4"x5", 2 up, making a sheet size of 5"x8".
It is designed to fit some metal sign holders from Orion Co.
It fits their sign holder #310-54. It looks like they might have done
some changes but it will still give you some ideas.
http://www.gardenmarker.com/
- Toby

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 10:35:38 PM »
Will look at this on Tuesday guys- I'm off for an Easter break.

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2010, 05:20:27 AM »
Here?s another label that I would like to have a layout for:

   This is to be printed on Avery #6570 which is the same series of labels as the Avery #6577,
   so I know the label stock is good and lasts. The label measures 1-1/4? top to bottom and
   1-3/4? left to right. There are 4 vertical columns and 8 horizontal rows down. 32 on the
   sheet. Avery has a template for it, also numbered #6570. I have a plastic potstic
   approximately 1-1/4?x 2? to mount this label on, that has a 3-1/2? point on it.


   We will number the vertical columns #1-#4, and the horizontal rows #1-#8, in row 1 on the
   first label that we will call #1-1. I want to place a photo of a plant, and below that photo I
   want to place text for identification of that same plant. The next label immediately to the
   right, which we will identify as #1-2, I want to place text only for that same plant.

   Using the same identification system, we will call the next label to the right of #1-2, as #1-3.
   In #1-3 we will repeat the same process outlined above and print another photo of a different
   plant, then in #1-4 we will print text for that same plant as created in #1-3.

   We will repeat that process in all the horizontal rows as we go downward. We now have
   sheet of labels that is arranged as such:
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text
   Photo/Text ? Photo/Text

   We have now created sets of labels in 2?s that are related to each other.

   I will place the photo label on the front of that potstic, and the related text label on the
    back. I have now constructed a double sided label for identifying my plants whether they
   be in trays, pots or in the garden.  Is it workable?

   - Toby

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2010, 06:19:44 PM »
George:

   Hopefully for you, this will be my last request for some re-work for GA048 LABELS
   for Vegetable Project Session 11.

   Under the Forum topic ?Got down-time? Do plant labels/markers now?. Reply #12,
   Feb. 15, 2008, JohnB posted his answers to some Label Questions that I had asked
   prior, in this same Topic.

   #1 is printed below:

1.   You indicate you only mark shrubs and trees, would you consider labeling the
    rest of your garden(s)?
   With most of the perennials, I've inserted their nursery tag either close in to
   the crown so it disappears under the foliage or mulch - or in the raised beds,
   I've put these tags down behind the retaining wall or bricks so it's right in
   front of you as you look into the bed (one can simply pull them up to look
   at them). I've done it this way so that the planting bed doesn't look like a
   "bird cemetary" (i.e. lots of little white headstones!).

   I think John has made valid points in his answer to my question, and I would like
   to see us be able to add a background color when making labels.

   To illustrate let?s take US Orion 400-175 which is a 1-3/4?x4? label, on the right side
   is a photo 1?x1?. The left side of the label is reserved for text and the area measures
   approx. 1?x2?, above all there is one line of text.

   Can a background of some color that will blend in with garden surroundings,
   as perhaps light tan or light green, which can be placed behind the text, but leave
   the area reserved for the photo in the white label background, so that the plant
   photo reproduces as accurately as possible.

   Hopefully, this would then end the problem with the ?bird cemetery? as John calls it.
   In the vegetable garden it?s nice to have all those white markers, so that you can spot
   them easily behind and in between the veggies. But for the ornamental gardens, they
   stand out ?like a sore thumb?.

   Have you got some ?tricks? in your bag, that can accomplish this?
   Thanks for considering.
   - Toby


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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2010, 10:30:34 PM »
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   Have you got some ?tricks? in your bag, that can accomplish this?
Yes
Basically, it would be a rectangle the size of the labels, with a fill colour.
However, it adds complexity to creating labels - a) more buttons etc, b) the user would have to be given the option to be able to choose background colour.
There would also be an overhead in a drain of your printers ink to paint the entire label.

Now Ive explained that, how many members would use that feature, if provided?



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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2010, 10:44:13 PM »
On the basis of extra ink being used, I would not want to have a background colour printing out.  If you've got a lot of plants that would use a lot of ink and become very expensive.

The best of both worlds would be a user choice to print a background colour or not.  It depends on the programming needed to offer that choice.  Simple is best.

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2010, 10:47:22 PM »
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I will place the photo label on the front of that potstic, and the related text label on the back.

I can create labels which have Front and Back
Print front in one pass (Photo+optional text) , print back in a second pass (text).
Option a)
The second pass can be on the same sheet - in which case you have a label with printing front and back.
The software takes care of the "flip" so the correct back is printed on the rear of the correct front.

Option b) The second pass can be on a second sheet.

Would one of those options do your job better?
 

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2010, 11:20:51 PM »

I agree with Laurie.

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2010, 11:06:19 AM »

I agree with Laurie.

Malcolm
me too, ink is dear enough as it is  ::)

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 10:23:01 AM »
RE: (Toby)
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Play around with Orion 311-54LC.
This is  a US one that George didn't get a chance to finish, and it is in RichText.

This label is actually completed Toby.
Its a Rich Text label, discussed in this topic:
http://www.flowergenie.co.uk/ideas/forum/index.php/topic,1095.0.html

I'm now using that as a demo for the Session on Labels for the Vegetables Project:
http://www.ideasgenie.co.uk/Vegetables/
« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 10:24:48 AM by ideasguy »

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Re: New labels or new features anyone?
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2010, 10:43:03 PM »
How's everyone doing with the labels programme, it's working very well for me, thanks to George's hard work.
Paul.  ;D